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I can’t believe it - this is the big one. The summer season finale. I have had such mixed feeling about this episode - this whole season. The treasure arc - it really burned me from the beginning - the callous use of Nazi atrocities as a plot device. The twist of Mozzie into someone unrecognizable.

But we’ve been promised a redemption.

Here we go. Not too much squeeing - I’m going to try and concentrate.



I run on this - New York is just a memory. Gah - That breaks my heart.

But the rift between Neal and Moz - that doesn’t. It’s about time he cut his ties there.

That statute keeps changing. It was a young girl a few eps ago.

Peter is definitely being very evil

And I called the Tsarkoye Selo loot months ago.

The ultimatum - Neal needs to stay. He needs to stay. Just knock that hourglass to the floor and tell Moz you’re done.

The PROM PICTURE!!!!

The Archeologist - Neal’s loosened him up

“Gotham City’s Finest Cop and Robber” - I do love that!

Once a con, always a con? Love that as a question. “People can change.”

Neal looks very nervous - and his eyes are exceedingly blue in the interrogation room.

Peter and Neal are chatting about Homer. This is why I LOVE THIS SHOW. The writers are sometimes not afraid to scare away their viewers with intelligence

Why did Peter signal his intent from 30 feet away?

I wonder if ERT can pull deep data

Ah shit - Agent Matthews. Neal - you are so screwed.

Neal - I got to say - you are brilliant. But can you keep it up

Diana - you are a gun slut! The way were eyes are lit up.
Peter - you’re breaking my heart. You’ve all but told Neal you’re going to lock him away for the rest of his life. Why would he want to stay now?

And Keller - he is an evil, oily bastard.

Beater and chinos - Neal is forging art

Neal and that toothpick - I’mma needing my bunk right now.

Moz and a mustache. Just call him Bazooka Joe?

(Love the music - it’s really terrific - but so out-of-show character)

Peter - what gives? You go from “I want to see his face” to shoving him in a closet

Where is the apartment’s owner? Ah - there he is.

And no one sees or pays attention to a black parachute floating around downtown?

Peter looks heartbroken, and Neal turns the knife just a little bit. “Sorry Peter, I know how much you wanted this.”

PETER KNOWS! That smile - he knows.

NO! Neal doesn’t want to leave. Oh, save my heart. He’s made the right choice

EL! NO! OH SAVE MY HEART.




This is it folks - the last Dish for the next four months. Your thoughts - thinky, not so thinky. And many hugs please - because this is killing me.

Date: 2011-08-10 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoosierbitch.livejournal.com
*hugs*

*clings*

*cries*

WHY JEFF EASTIN WHYYYYYYYYY

Date: 2011-08-10 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysticlady3.livejournal.com
I was literally on the edge of my bed in those final minutes. The look on both Neal and Peter's faces. Just GUH!

I knew Neal was going to stay.

Date: 2011-08-10 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damietta.livejournal.com
I know it was totally unbelievable that a guy in a black parachute jumps off a building in NYC and no one sees, but it was still a great scene (the hat, LOL).

The giant hourglass (the sands of time days of our lives).

Satchmo isn't much of a watchdog. Bad dog.

Neal is the one who brings Peter out of the fog.

I hope Neal told Mozzie about Elizabeth (Moz is going to shit).

How many times are they going to let Keller get away? I know he's their favorite "go to" bad guy, but really. If he doesn't get caught and stay caught over EL then, well, seriously?

Date: 2011-08-10 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swanpride.livejournal.com
Perhaps they go for the "possible dead" angle next time - just to let him have survive for another round....

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Date: 2011-08-10 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leavingslowly.livejournal.com
I sort of feel like they wrote themselves into a corner with the Nazi treasure, and the only way to get out of it was to have Neal parachute off a building in broad daylight . . . but still,
I love Neal and Peter.

I'd also like to point out that technically, Neal didn't steal the treasure. Mozzie did, and planted his painting too! I think Moz should take the fall for this one.

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Date: 2011-08-10 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surreal-44.livejournal.com
My initial reaction is OMG OMG OMG.

I've been pondering Peter's behavior in this episode what with trying to catch Neal, and I've come to the conclusion that Peter was trying to coerce Neal into giving up the treasure before the FBI finds it. If he can get Neal to cop to him instead of being caught with it, then Peter has a chance to save him.

But Peter is Peter, and so in the end he will go after Neal, even if he cares deeply about him. I loved that conversation between Peter and his mentor in the beginning. I want to smoosh Peter into a hug.

And then OMG EL!!! I knew it was going to happen, but OMG!!! Tim DeKay is an acting GOD. Seriously. I thought he did a superb job with the ending scenes. -hugs him-

Keller, I hope you're ready to die. <3 He's such a terrible bad guy...which makes him AWESOME!! We have waaaaay too long of a wait. -sulks-

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Date: 2011-08-10 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doctor-fangeek.livejournal.com
Just glomming onto your post with some thoughts, in no particular order:

This was a real "on the edge of your seat" episode. I thought it was well-paced, and had a good balance of character interactions and action.

Loved that Mozzie and Neal finally actually talked about what *Neal* wants. Totally agree about the, "I run on this..." line. Gah, indeed.

Thought it was really interesting that Kramer wasn't convinced that Neal is reformed, but *was* convinced that he wants to be there. And that whole earlier conversation about Peter being too close to Neal, Kramer's C.I., and "people can change" - good stuff.

I also totally agree about the Homer conversation. Loved seeing Peter and Neal being intelligent with each other (even if they are still at odds).

I had the same reaction to Agent Matthews' appearance...*and* to Neal getting around it.

Anytime we get to see Neal making art, it is a good thing.

Keller is slimy and evil and needs to be taken down.

I'm willing to forgive the failure of anyone to notice the parachute, in light of everything else about that whole sequence. I loved it all, from Mozzie with the mustache and the bazooka through Neal slipping out just as Peter and Diana are arriving, and the "other way down" was way cool.

Kramer on the forged Degas: "It's the best I've ever seen." And suddenly, Peter *knows*. Fist pump.

Neal decides to stay!

I called the cliffhanger before the episode, so I found the whole sequence where Peter is working late and El is home alone very worrisome. The bit where Keller quotes El back to Peter was genuinely chilling.

I'm not actually worried that they will kill or seriously hurt El, so it's kind of like last year with Mozzie - it's not so much about what happens to the "character in peril," but about how the events that led up to the peril (and the peril itself) will effect the characters and their relationships.

Or, a shorter reaction to the episode: "Wow!"

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Date: 2011-08-10 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daria234.livejournal.com
Yay to Neal staying. Moz was quite bitter, and I don't see how that scene made sense except as jealous breakup. And I really don't see why we kept hearing how much Neal wanted to stay (from Beau Bridges and then from Neal himself) but NO ONE said what he was staying FOR, but it OBVIOUSLY wasn't to be a law abiding good boy. So... not to sound stupid but... if I weren't a slasher (which makes the unspoken REASON NEAL MUST STAY very clear), I would be very confused.

And I was pretty grrrr at the end. Kate killed as motivator, now El kidnapped as motivator. At least I trust the writers to show that El's smarts will help her get out of it, even though Peter and Neal et al will help too of course. But what really made me gripe this season is that there used to be moral ambiguity (Neal sometimes chose people over the rules, sometimes Peter was WAY wrong to trust the proper authorities to handle things justly in S1), but in this season, there has not been moral ambiguity. I think the writers THINK they are making Neal an antihero/exploring moral ambiguity - but they are not showing the WORLD as a morally ambiguous place if that makes any sense at all. It's all the criminals' fault, and the innocent ppl get hurt this season. (Exaggerating, but... O am grumpy because I don't want to spend several months wondering what kind of relationship Peter and Neal will have). And as soon as Neal decided to not tell Peter about Keller, it was obvious Keller was going to kidnap someone (I thought Moz, then I saw El happy and not worried and knew...). So if Peter blames Neal and lashes out at Neal, I will not be a happy camper. (Even though Peter doing so would be understandable, cuz not telling them Keller is threatening something when Keller KNOWS Peter is Neal's weak spot is not okay).

So ... guesses for winter? Mine is that Peter is so upset but then Neal risks everything for El and Peter is forced to trust Neal again in order to work together to save El, and El kicks ass in some way too, and maybe Mozzie gets to shoot Keller. And then El makes Peter forgive Neal because she is in charge. All that in the first ep of the new season, is my guess :)

Date: 2011-08-10 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daria234.livejournal.com
I didn't mention it, but for the most part I thought it was a great ep. It just doesn't sound like it, lol. But the Homer and the dialogue over "Mentor" - and does that mean something with regard to MENTOR? and Neal being the bestest and Peter being proud sort of of how smart Neal is.

Date: 2011-08-10 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surreal-44.livejournal.com
I don't think Peter will blame Neal specifically. Even if Neal had gone to Peter with the info about the treasure, that probably would not have stopped Keller. In fact, Keller didn't really need the treasure to be a danger at all; he could and would have taken Elizabeth for any number of other ~evil~ schemes.

I know in fanfic land that's where a lot of writers will go (with Peter blaming Neal), but I don't see the show going that direction. At least not in any way that would be too deep.

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Date: 2011-08-10 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuppence1.livejournal.com
Regarding the parachute, I think Moz was going to collect it just after Neal handed off the rest of his gear. So it won't be on the streets all that long, and those who did see the jump - and certainly some folks did - will most likely assume it's a tv show or movie filming. :) And even if someone goes into the building and says something to the effect of "oh my god someone just jumped off your building with a parachute!!!!"....well, the guys at the desk are going to say "yeah, whatever." Especially if the proof - the parachute silk - is gone via Mozzie. Said person will have to say it to Peter, Diana, Jones, or Peter's mentor who's name I forget for someone to 1) believe them about the parachute and 2) connect it to something Neal might do. Possible, but I think Neal figured that it was worth the risk, and he had no other option.

(Hi by the way. Lurker who reads your episode reviews.)

Date: 2011-08-10 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coffeethyme4me.livejournal.com
HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!! For you, for Peter, for El, for Neal!!! Sounds like a stellar ep, honestly. Can't wait for the luscious fics!!!!!!!!!!

(Who called Neal Peter's boy, btw?? I must know!!)

Date: 2011-08-10 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysticlady3.livejournal.com
Peter's mentor and then Keller.

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Date: 2011-08-10 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimaiyat.livejournal.com
Kramer (Peter's mentor) did! I made a rather spectacular face at that.

I thought this was mostly a great episode, except EL!!! D:

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Date: 2011-08-10 05:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultracape.livejournal.com
First off, on August 4 I wrote a prompt almost exactly like this on Collar Corner though I did it anonymously.

Here it is:
(Anonymous) on August 4th, 2011 03:36 pm (local)
Neal has hit rock bottom
Prompt/Request: Neal has hit rock bottom
Characters: Neal, Peter, El, Moz, Keller, anyone else writer needs
I would Like: Mozzie, no longer trusting Neal, moves the loot so that he does not know where it is. In the meantime, Keller stalks Elizabeth. He won't stop terrorizing her and keeps stepping it up until or unless Neal turns over the Nazi loot which he now does not have. Peter doesn't believe him and throws Neal in a holding cell until Neal tells him where the loot is so he can save his wife.
Neal realizes no one trusts him, no one believes him or in him, they all think he thinks more of the loot than anyone else. He has to prove himself to save Elizabeth and to get back what he treasures most, his friends. But how can he do it, guarded day and night in a cage in the depths of the F.B.I. building?

I Don't Want: Suicide, self harm, Neal crying. Giving up the loot can be part of it but not the whole thing because Peter can't be bought.
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So aside from yelling throughout this that I wrote it first, I was really not surprised about this episode at all. This has happened to me a few time before but not this exactly.

Okay, I think Moz will be back. I think that's a no brainer.

I agree, parachuting from a very high building in New York and no one sees, give me a break.

You know what gets me though, more and more, what they are doing to Peter. The only thing he has been wrong about is accusing Neal of stealing the Nazi loot because he really never did.

Everything else he's been right about and it's as if Neal is gaslighting him. He's always left with that one niggling doubt which always turns out to be true.

Okay, now to the last part, hey guys, mid season cliffy is *always* a red herring, always. Yes, Keller could have kidnapped El but that was made to look like a dream sequence.

This episode was very tense though however, once Keller came into the picture, and we all knew he would, I knew I'd nailed it somewhat.

Date: 2011-08-10 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swanpride.livejournal.com
Yeah, my thought was too on this prompt when the ep neared the end, so I wasn't surprised at all. Looks like the pros will tackle your prompt.

Now that you are mention it: Yes, it could be a dream sequence. I was a little bit irritated that the whole FBI team AND Neal would manage to be at Peter's home before him when he was already on his way there. But I handwaved it for the sake of the moment. A dream sequence could be an explanation - but I hope not, because a kidnapped El would be the one thing which would make Mozzie stay. (And personally, I hate dream sequences, I consider them cheating).

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Date: 2011-08-10 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenaeron.livejournal.com
Adding my $0.02!

First off, I have to give props to the writers, especially JE. I have been particularly hard on him this season. And I really wasn't sure how he was going to get himself out of this mess. It's not over, but this ep went a long way toward fixing things. So, there I was sort of wrong! LOL

When I saw the Prom Picture I thought of you Elr! I knew you were squeeing! LOL

You know, Anna Chlumsky, she actually has a lot of chemistry to MB. I would not be terribly upset if they brought her back! I liked how she admitted she got scammed and that it was partly her own fault. Although in her defense, really who could resist Neal looking and acting all Nealish! I know I'd have fallen at his feet! LOL While she was mad at him (and had a right to), she wasn't bitter (or didn't seem to be). I think she came away from this experience a little wiser and probably a little thankful that it didn't blow up in her face (which it really could have). If she was going to be conned, thank god it was by Neal who has half a conscious, even if he doesn't always use it.

So, the beater and the chinos is Neal's forgery comfort clothes! I had to laugh when I saw that. The only thing better would have been if he lost the beater!

The toothpick was actually a turn off for me. It just seemed a little too trashy for Neal. But that's just my opinion! But I do love that outfit! :-)

The whole "lock Neal in a closet" was a plot device. It didn't make sense, will never make sense, but did make for some fun and silly moments in the ep. I loved Peter's speech to the guards.

I'll second, third, forth, whatever the number of commenters who said "You don't notice a man parachuting off the edge of the building?" I will give Tuppence credit, that is probably the one explanation that might work (the TV/Movie shot). But JE LOVES his big stunt at the mid-season finale and this was sort of fun. I still love the dive and flip off the bakery canopy the best, but mostly because I love the looks exchanged by Peter and Neal right after that!

And speaking of that look...It was the same sort of proud look that Peter got when he realized that Neal had forged the painting last night. That "Damn he's brilliant" and "I so want to bang him!" LOL Ok, that last thought might have been mine, but I still think it works!

The whole Keller thing. If they don't either kill the man or lock him up really good... ARGH! I get that the actor plays really great bad guys (he is awesome!) but come on people, I can only suspend disbelief so much.

I'll admit I didn't see the kidnapping bit. I was thinking that Keller would just use the threat of harming El to try to force Peter's hand, but now that I think about it, it does make sense. Some comments thought it might have been a dream sequence, I don't think so. I think it was Peter in a fog about the whole situation and didn't come out until he saw Neal. And yes, I can see Peter blaming Neal (to some extent) but because it is El, he knows that Neal will move heaven and earth to get her back. I was going to say that he's told Neal that he trusts Neal with his wife, but now I can't remember if it was in an ep or one of Elr's fanfics (I sometimes forget she's not writing canon! LOL). And Elizabeth is the one person that would force Mozzie to stay. He'll give up the treasure for her. And if he didn't, well then they would have to write Willie out of the show and somehow I don't think that is happening!

Thankfully I can breath a little easier for the next couple of months. But I can't wait to read the fanfic that comes out between now and then, it is going to be epic!

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Date: 2011-08-10 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elainasaunt.livejournal.com
OK, finally, I just managed to sneak in a look at this episode, and I have to agree, JE's gone a long way towards completely redeeming himself. DeKay was great in the final scene, and wasn't Willie Garson brilliant? Especially when he and Neal were saying their farewells (which we know they won't actually turn out to be).

Sigh. Back to work. (But I'll have a short unexpected break after the bit I'm supposed to finish by the end of tomorrow. Here's hoping it'll be enough to let me finish you know what!)

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